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TIME HAS NO EMOTION an attempted debunking of Aquarius: The Age of Evil By Anonymous Version zero (there's always room for improvement). |
PART TWO |
[William Cooper:] "Here's the way they look at it. Here's their metaphor. Adam and Eve were held prisoner in the Garden of Eden by an unjust, cruel and vindictive God until Lucifer, through his agent Satan, set man free from this garden by giving him the gift of intellect. Through the use of intellect man will conquer the earth, will conquer nature and will himself become God. It's taught in every Masonic temple in this land. Every secret brotherhood, every secret society, every mystical temple; every occult organization teaches the Luciferian philosophy."(3) |
So satan tempted human beings into accepting the gift of intellect (how is beyond me since human intellectual ability at the present stage of the story didn't exist) then now being able to use their brains to think is a bad thing? I can't ignore the message that having knowledge is a bad thing. If accepting the gift of intellect was evil, then isn't using the brain to learn anything even more evil? The implication that learning is a sin effectively means even learning about the existence of the holy bible is a sin. |
Newborn babies are labeled as evildoers. The phrase from Christianity is something like "Man is born with sin". But a strange question comes to mind; what about the conception of the child? Isn't it a sin to create a fetus that has already sinned (somehow)? Let me guess, only as long as the child enters a religion that makes him/her not a sinner anymore. This would sound like scampering to block up holes in the story. |
I think it's impossible for humans to get to a level where it is possible for them to change the laws of nature. The laws of nature are to be followed; you can't become the laws of nature, you can't become time. How could you ever achieve the ability to change the speed of light at will? This debunks the argument that TZM believes people can become gods in this sense. |
[Narration:] To understand the new world order and the New Age world view we must go back into history and examine its origins. But first we must define our terms. By "New Age" I am speaking about a world view that has many facets and components such as Astrological and Zodiacal beliefs in the New Age concept, channeling higher powers to achieve knowledge, meditation, the belief that all is one (or forms of Monism), the belief that we can attain god-hood, esotericism (or in other words reinterpreting ancient texts to find hidden meanings and unify all religious belief into one), the belief that we need a one-world system for the coming Age of Aquarius. |
So do I as a member of TZM believe that we need a one world system for the coming Age of Aquarius? |
First of all time has no emotion. The astrological signs of the zodiac to me is like people got together and played join the dots with the stars and they made what they wanted to see appear in the sky, astrology is a primitive form of astronomy, in astrology they view planets as gods which influence daily life on earth, in astronomy they view planets as actual places. So to me it doesn't matter which sign of the zodiac or age we are in at all. We measure time, time simply flows without concern. Our question is are the people of this planet currently enabled to use their time in the wisest way possible? TZM thinks not. |
The reason we need a new social system that's interconnected globally that's updated to present day knowledge, modern methods, including guidelines that correspond to the laws of nature is because if we attempt to disregard laws of nature like we are now we will kill ourselves. Like how you'll die if you don't eat, or if you take a leap of faith off a cliff you'll fall to the ground. Which shows god's/reality's major concern is to simply maintain its laws of nature. Life isn't this reality's major concern, but it's part of its workings and it can be allowed to flourish. |
The reason why it needs to be a one-world system is because it's most productive to work together than to cause conflict. Like the teaching love thy neighbour - or am I misinterpreting the teaching love thy neighbour should I be interpreting it as hate thy neighbour? |
All religions eventually need to find common ground, if keithtruth has no problem with part 3 of zeitgeist the movie doesn't he recognise that disputes over who's right and who's wrong ends up in heated battles that lead to chaos? Instead of pointing fingers at whose right and whose wrong we need to find common ground if we wish to continue living on this planet. Every human needs clean air, healthy food, clean water, shelter, continuous education to improve prosperity, efficient transportation, clean environment etc. How exactly is encouraging such a direction evil? That's what seems to be the overshadowing message with the dark music and the practice of distorting images. |
By "new world order" I am talking about a political agenda to create a one-world system, one-world government, one-world economy, unity of humanity into one organism, control over humanity and submission of the masses. "They're going to make it sound wonderful which is what like the Zeitgeist Addendum particularly does in the second part. Where they talk about oh, we're going to like you know have free energy. We're going to provide your needs. There's been talk about erasing all debts. That's more… The Venus Project is more… what is it Jacque Vallee? Jacque Fresco. That's more what he's into. Okay this is his utopian approach to the new world order." |
I can't say whether or not there is a conspiracy to create a one-world government and to totally enslave people (even though we are already slaves to this money system, when you're already a slave how much more enslaved can you be?) Anyway if it's a conspiracy meaning a secret plot to enslave the people of the world which are already enslaved by debt, why would you make a movie about your secret plot and release it online? The idea behind enslavement I thought would be to make people unintelligent as possible to enable them to be easily controlled. |
Giving people free knowledge makes people more aware and free. The more people think the freer they become (never 100% free though that's impossible). |
Not only that, but the apparent plan of the N.W.O. is to have a world monetary system. We want people to think for themselves and to give people more time in their own lives to pursue goals that are beneficial to them and others for fulfillment. Not work as battery hens for money. The way you enslave people is to convince them that monetary debt is real, when in fact its bits of plastic or to be more accurate meaningless electronic numbers where only faith gives it value. Are you suggesting that the zeitgeist movement is going to promote the idea and method for creating a society that doesn't require the use of money then we're going to turn around and suddenly say "Now we've got you! Now we're going to install an evil one world currency! Ha! Ha! Ha!" Ahem no. I must have missed a zeitgeist meeting because that's not why I'm a member. I want to see the source of corrupt behaviour removed so more prosperous behaviour can emerge, I don't wish to see perfect utopian people because then there's no room for improvement defeating the point to life. |
To be perfectly honest I really don't like that term new world order - it seems like it's a cool term that's just thrown around and people who inform other people about conspiracies sometimes want to be seen as prophets. Going down an endless staircase of researching corruption doesn't give you a solution to corruption. There's no end to how bad it can get until you're dead. |
To term the venus project or sociocyberneering as utopia we must first define the word utopia. Utopia 1. Ideally perfect state; especially in its social and political and moral aspects 2. An imaginary place considered to be perfect or ideal Related word - Zion |
The idea of striving for perfection is insane; we are not striving for perfection at all. We want constant improvement in technologies and for those improvements to be beneficial to all otherwise there is no point to inventing them. Constant improvement implies that we don't believe in perfection. We don't want to use political management; politics is corrupt as money. A computer system (being open source) that tells you - how many aircraft are currently in the air, how many ships are out at sea, the rate of growth and quality of hydroponic farms all around the world, resource reserves that are known, and strong recommendations for how to effectively manage those resources should now be in the role of a cybernated government and no other role than that. What determines whether or not you breathe? The features of the body that automatically enable breathing. Our argument is an expansion of the fact that you don't politically decide to breathe. |
Certain politicians right now are glamorised just like movie stars, yet what they know and have actually done seems to be increasingly irrelevant from interest. What they promise and how they present that promise seems to be most important. So TZM doesn't want to be affiliated with politics. If TZM is such a political movement how come I don't want to be politically active at all? I don't like business! Business immersed in corruption! |
On another note the discoverer of the idea/method of a resource based economy Jacque Fresco says in the film zeitgeist addendum "The system I advocate a resource based global economy is not perfect, it's just a lot better than what we have. We can never achieve perfection." This existence of that quote shows that certain quotes are chosen while others are ignored to backup a biased perspective that TZM is striving for a perfect society/utopia. The idea of true research is to be as minimally biased as possible. |
G. Edward Griffin "It is Communism without using the name … The enemy of mankind is not profit. It is a political system of big government. Yet, this program is supportive of some of the most notable big-government collectivist on the planet. Marxist/Leninists may be enemies of collectivists in Washington, DC, but they are collectivists in their own right. The Communist model is no better than the Nazi model." (83) |
So profit is not our "enemy" or is not destructive and what is really destructive is a big government correct? Well consider in this example of profit to determine whether money is our "enemy" or not. If you have corporations selling products what they will want to do is sell it to you at the lowest price they can to be competitive with another corporation that's selling a similar product (the competitive edge) and still make a profit. They'll use materials and designs that are cheap to do this so naturally the product breaks down and you'll have to buy another. They'll also use the best advertising techniques they can devise to put into your mind that you need this product regardless of if you actually need it (like lipstick it's useless). Then when they put their biggest competitors out of business they have the ability to raise the price of this product making them a monopoly corporation of that product and also advertise them as being the coolest and you're not cool if you don't buy from them. When they become a complete monopoly they can again raise the pirce again further pursuing the short sighted goal of profit and still call it a fair deal, when competitors are out of business a monopoly has the customers all to themselves. The process of lying to the customer involves the customer believing what they say rather than a customer being able to tell what a lie is. Companies will always say that buying from them is fair because they want to maintain control over you. Lie A statement that deviates from or perverts the truth. So the question is Is perverting truth destructive? YES! Big governments go hand in hand with big businesses, how? Well because people in government are susceptible to bribery. If that statement holds water then the needs of people will always be in a queue compared to the desires of big business. That's why this system has got to change its goal to caring for human needs and the environment that maintains us rather than caring for the selfish cancerous desires of business. |
Narration "...and they all speak against Christianity and the bible. The people who took over the truth movement and who are allowed to live and teach the public such as Jordan Maxwell, Michael Teserion (not sure how to spell that last name), Peter Joseph, David Icke, and others. All of these people have one unifying factor they are all strictly against Christianity and they are all heavily associated with the new age theosophy, and freemasonry. |
Allowed to live? Is this a hit list? |
By deduction that PJ is apparently strictly against Christianity and I am a member of TZM then I must be strictly against Christianity correct? Well to simply label me being against Christianity is easy, and it doesn't require anymore thought, it's designed to demonise a person. What I am against is the contradictions in the bible. Anything that contradicts, corrupts, dissolves, or redefines the teaching of love thy neighbour/love your enemies causes the goal of a group to change into a cancerous direction. |
On another note a demonising tactic that's being done here is that the people who want to demonise these people draw them instead of actually having a picture of them. What? They're so evil they don't get a photo? |
Communism Vs. The Venus Project or my preferred name Sociocyberneering |
When one does a comparison between Zeitgeist Addendum and the communist model it becomes clear that the Zeitgeist movement is in fact promoting communism. N. B. Ghodke, in the work 'Encyclopaedic Dictionary of Economics' defines full communism based in the ideals of Marx Engels and others as: |
Where is the actual problem with the plan of reducing scarcity to reduce negative behaviour? It seems to be implied since there's connections to degrees between EVILLL communism and the venus project. This is a fear mongering tactic to make you afraid of the venus project. To encourage fear is to encourage disease. |
What people want is access to resources freely to satisfy their needs. If they get that why would they want show cancerous disrespectful behaviour to other people? Also how exactly do you control people in an authoritarian one-world government system if you're providing their prime human needs for free? The idea behind submitting to a government's rule is because their meant to (they don't) care for a public in harsh times. If the times aren't harsh or can be improved significantly so then it's unnecessary to have a government would their rule be valid or manufactured? We trust the idea that we need government, and this system doesn't work without that trust. That's why we need a system where common people doubt the effectiveness of what we're doing to solve problems so we can uncover new more productive ways to solve problems so we don't have sheep (this is assuming the people who identify people as sheep don't want to look at people as sheep). Trust in a government doesn't produce that kind of progress, it's simply trust the government's way of solving problems period. Who in their right mind says they want an authoritarian one-world cancer government that's run by people relying on their emotional biases and doesn't manage what's important because it doesn't care about the public. What needs to be governed is agreement to human needs and the environment being a requirement; if human needs and maintenance of the environment isn't met you are going to have problems. |
The reason why you might think you need an authoritarian government that seeks to control people with police, law, surveillance etc, is because that's been driven into you by fear that's been passed down. People become naturally desperate when their human needs are not being satisfied and installing laws is a prop that says we don't know how to fix that problem. People become so confused from the fear generated that society becomes a big mess of opinions and the clear direction of love thy neighbour is lost. The only soultions to problems become temporary. |
So what do people do? They act out, have tantrums, and timeout is prison. Instead of looking at the influences as the problem we look at the people being the problem. If you weren't getting what you needed to live would you accept that and die or become angry and complain? Masters don't want people to complain because if they listened a balance would materialise and then masters wouldn't exist. Someone who's corrupted needs to find balance so their role as master dissolves. Government will always be there to protect the rich from the poor's tantrums. |
Society is programmed to insist in conflict but TZM wants agreement in the basics of human life. Not everyone needs to agree in absolutely everything. For example how people like to spend their recreational time, yet we feel people should at least agree on the requirements for a human to live. A system that doesn't include care for everyone is corrupt. |
Communism: (4) "It will be a moneyless economy."(91) Zeitgeist: (4)"The system uses no money."(92) |
It's worthwhile here to point out the question was communism ever actually practiced with no money besides theory? |
Watch part three for continuation. |
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