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Stormcloudsgathering: As I've said before, the
resource based economy model right now is
nothing more than a hypothesis it's never been
tested. And therefore there really is no proof
whatsoever that it would work on any scale.
The Zeitgeist Movement defines a resource
based economy as "the scientific method for
social concern" rather than the way the free
market uses science right now for destructive
purposes, like to produce war machines.
Stormcloudsgathering is literally saying that
science has never been tested, which doesn't
make sense. There is proof that science works.

Here's some proof that science works on a
global scale: The internet, a technology
discovered by science which
stormcloudsgathering has used to enable there
to be any viewers of the propaganda video he
has made to outright lie about the zeitgeist
movement.

Test case fail?
Science is all about testing what works, so a
social system based on science would be
constantly testing itself to enable a workable
model. The zeitgeist movement suggests that it
is the market social system which doesn't
enable enough testing because people have a
religious belief that the market magically works
regardless of the evidence that it does not.
War, poverty, crime, social indifference,
pollution, mental depression, people rich while
poor suffer, boring jobs dispite automation that
could replace human labour and the list goes
on.

The zeitgeist movement is just a bunch of
advocates of the social direction just mentioned
to put pressure on market advocates that
promote social indifference, competition over
cooperation and war.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO WHAT YOU DEFINE
THE ZEITGEIST MOVEMENT AS.

This is exactly how market advocates do not
think. They think the magical capitalist free
market works dispite the evidence that
continues to mount that the cause of our social
problems is in fact the market system.

Stormcloudsgathering: I've heard the argument
made that you guys need enough of the right
kind of people in order for the resource based
economy to work. but at the same time you
assert that this resource based economy which
will fix the fundamental which would normally
keep the resource based economy from
working.
I haven't heard this argument generally by the
zeitgeist movement, the circular reasoning that
you want to be there actually isn't. Also, the
people with values that support the market will
not result in peaceful, happy society. Social
values that support the market are destructive.
No question about it.

Stormcloudsgathering: the human element...
THE RULE OF LAW OR
THE LEGAL SYSTEM
DOES NOT WORK.
SCIENCE ISN'T ABOUT "VOTING",
IT'S ABOUT TESTING.

Stormcloudsgathering: burden of proof...
You tell me, how do I prove that testing
(science) works? by testing testing to
see if testing works? WTF@!!@!

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