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THE ZEITGEIST MOVEMENT

WWW.THEZEITGEISTMOVEMENT.COM
WWW.THEVENUSPROJECT.COM
Debunkers and Division
A MESSAGE FROM A MEMBER OF TZM

Hello, I'm flesh and blood just
like yourself, I don't like to see
myself different from you so I'll
type this like I'm talking to
myself so I'm as honest as
possible. What I'm troubled by is
the idea of great division among
people. This has plagued society
for a long time and to be honest,
I'm absolutely SICK of monetary
differential advantage and all the
other negative affects of the
monetary system.

Apparently even the bible says that
interest is sin! I haven't read the
bible so I can't back up that
statement though...
Anyway the trouble I've seen recently
is the division between debunkers and
the zeitgeist movement, one debunker
with the user name KeithTruth which
seems like the go to guy for debunking
zeitgeist has decided that he wants to
DEVASTATE the zeitgeist movement.

Devastate
"Devastate or ravage"
"Overwhelm or overpower"
It seems he's hell bent on
proving TZM wrong. Anyway I
decided to give him a message
which was exactly like this.

Hi
I want to give you what would devastate me and
make me consider not being an activist of TZM.
quote
"I don't have time to keep responding to every
little Zeitgeist defender who tries to refute me. I
have a big project coming up soon that is going
to devastate the Zeitgeist movement"

Surely then you are open to what a ZM member
would be devastated by for your big project.

1. Evidence that faith is more practical than doubt.
Maybe by defining them and the consequences of
pursuing both.
2. Evidence that there is lawful money in circulation.
3. Evidence that the zeitgeist movement's claim about
property being an illusion is false. In other words
proof that a body of flesh and blood can be linked to
owning something, not an entity name like John
Smith owning something. When you're born your
name comes from thin air so proof of ownership in
the legal system is not genuine proof. A human being
does not come from thin air, but in the legal system a
person's name does.

The legal system we make up from thin air is a
sign of a lack of understanding of how reality
works in my view.
If you claim that you're going to devastate TZM
then you have to consider what directly would
devastate me, otherwise it's very possible you're
going to go on a path that TZM is not going to be
shaken by, If TZM still continues to get members
then you'll agree that debunkers have failed yet to
shake the movement enough. You can find a PDF
of modern money mechanics easily on google by
looking it up for starters.

What I find ironic about this situation between debunkers
and members of TZM is both are meant to be looking for
unbiased truth yet both seem so divided, no-one can know
the world truth because of the truth's changing nature. Yet
you'd think fundamental similarities would occur if they're
both looking for the same thing. Anyway I look forward to
your big project, and if you would like me to think of more
things that would devastate me about TZM drop me a
message!
Thanks for your time and have a good life!
From a member of TZM
Please enlighten me and show me the world in your eyes.
Additional: Please look up the song Westminster Chimes -
My favvvourite song!

I could only send him that message
confidentially because the message did
not work when I tried to send it on
the channel page. Anyway this video is
to show everything is out there on my
part. I want to say to debunkers that
it is only a practical thing to
completely prove a society wrong with
modern day evidence.

Modern day evidence of things has
to be more accurate than previous
understandings, because that is the
logical progression of our
improvement of technology. Do you
think in the dark ages they thought
about the internet or the advanced
technology we have today? Do you
think they thought about youtube?
Did the bible talk of computers
being able to process complex
applications?

Using the bible as a main source to
debunk the zeitgeist movement by
saying it's a worship of Satan is
completely insane. How old is that
book? And how can it be practically
applied to our current
understandings of doing things?

Classic examples of
religious law are
Thou shall not steal
Shouldn't we figure out why people
steal in our current society?
Thou shall not kill
Shouldn't we figure out why people
are killing each other in our
current society based on today's
methods to figure that out?

The understandings they had was that
if someone didn't believe in their
faith, they are threatened until
they commit to the religion, or
worse killed. It's force. The
monetary system isn't any different.
It's the threat of bankruptcy
instead of the threat of Satan. But
what we truly must understand is
everything is already bankrupt, it's
just a matter of time before this
system hits rock bottom. It's a
spiral of bankruptcy.

Talk to yourself to realise how honest
you are with yourself, I don't mean
simply don't talk to other people
though! We are a collective being that
must realise if our education is
accurate based on the feedback of the
world that we live in, then I would
say that then we would have an aware
society of the nature of our
surroundings. Based on the world that
I see, that has not happened yet. And
we must become aware of WHAT we are
rather than WHO we are. What we are is
much more important than who we are.

You know something had to put
this video together, but in the
sea of people does it really
matter who? What matters more
is if we all contributed to the
advance of technology to
improve our ability of doing
things. For example a
population of Einsteins might
be very productive!

What I want the future to be about
is freedom of access to things. How
do we achieve that? We start
encouraging it forming a new
direction for society. There is no
perfect freedom, the human being is
always linked to the natural world
and must abide by natural law. Yet
we are destroying the natural world
that formed on this planet, ensuring
humanity’s suicide if we don’t halt
ourselves from destroying it and
think about this new social
direction we are talking about.

Concerning KeithTruth's found
texts that are meant to link
theosophy and the zeitgeist
movement as the same, I'll say
this.
The texts are similar in ways,
but the main point he makes is
that the zeitgeist movement is in
fact political and we're lying to
say we’re not.

Well if this movement is political
then how come I think money is
fictional and is the lifeblood of
politics? Also how come no
politicians as far as I know are in
the movement? How come no word from
the media has talked about any
politicians being part of the
zeitgeist movement? The media loves
to dig up dirt and what they consider
corruption about politics and they’ve
yet to say anything like that about
any political figure.

Regarding my connection to
theosophy I want to refer to
their primary slogan.
"There is no religion higher than
truth"
To me that slogan is not accurate
enough for me. For me my life
slogan is.
"Doubt is higher than truth"

TRUTH
"A fact that has been verified"
Yet if facts about our understandings
can change, then there is no ultimate
truth, only current understandings.
Being hell bent on trying to reach
some kind of ultimate truth is like
trying to reach absolute freedom in
scientology, it's impossible. There
are simply limitations to humans that
technology breaks. The truth of today
is the fiction of tomorrow.

And now as a bonus, an
introductory to my
religion!

Doubt is higher than truth

THANK YOU FOR READING THIS
MESSAGE FROM A MEMBER OF TZM.
PROVING A SOCIETY WRONG IS
ELEVATING PEOPLE TO A NEW LEVEL
OF AWARENESS FURTHERING KNOWLEDGE
AND PROSPERITY FOR EVERYONE. LET
US BE DIVIDED BY ZERO
WWW.THEZEITGEISTMOVEMENT.COM
WWW.THEVENUSPROJECT.COM

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